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      <title>Obama is the ANTICHRIST, so Vote For Obama and get RAPTURED!!!!</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,68194,68194#msg-68194</link>
      <author>Mustellus</author>
      <description><![CDATA[You won't have to die!!!!

    You will be raptured before the tribulation!!!!

    You get to keep all your money: since you haven't died, you have no heir!!!!

    Lets get this ball rolling: A Vote for Obama is a Vote for the Antichrist!!!!

    AND WE ALL GET RAPTURED!!!!!

    Hallileua!!!!!  Jaybus be praised!!!!   Vote Obmama for Annihilation!!!]]></description>
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      <title>&quot;Comments, Mr. Haldane?&quot;</title>
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      <author>twinertia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Your link shows a more-compelling case that your &quot;designer's&quot; Great Kitchen sojourn was undertaken for our friends, the beetles (thousands of them, one of us, and their longevity gives them more eminent domain credence).

Why &quot;create&quot; a lone planet where 99.997% of everything ever on it goes extinct? Why &quot;create&quot; an orb that gets smashed into by comets and asteroids (where possibly everything gets destroyed)? Why &quot;create&quot; an omniverse teeming with planets that have no hope of ever sustaining life? Why &quot;create&quot; a place that spreads out into a mammoth heat sink of death?

Just so &quot;god&quot; has something to do for eternity? What a wonderful model.....]]></description>
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      <title>Strobel And Behe: The Toxic Twins</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,67696,67963#msg-67963</link>
      <author>twinertia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The thoroughly-dishonest Strobel is a huckster typist who's well aware of the audience he's writing for: the non-critical pew pounders who aren't afraid to twist and shout for their silly notions.

Minority opinionist Behe's &quot;work&quot; has been raked over the coals more times that I care to mention. Paul Doland sums it up best when he states &quot;if the cell was Darwin's &quot;black box&quot;, then &quot;god&quot; would have to be Behe's ultimate &quot;black box&quot;, a mystery that can never be peered into&quot;. There's nothing &quot;irreducibly complex&quot; about the hypocrisy it takes to knock the presumption of cell simplicity while coddling the simplicity of an &quot;intelligent designer&quot; (especially the hypothetical one that Behe chooses to fix his wagon to).

The scientific method vs. &quot;goddidit&quot;: which one advances the human cause, and which one stunts it?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:13:56 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Rapture Wackos and Money Whores...</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,67820,67820#msg-67820</link>
      <author>Mustellus</author>
      <description><![CDATA[have found their candidate, and its McCain!

   The rapture wackos want the end times, so that they can be raptured into heaven without dying.  McCain offers the best promise for huge wars that no one survives, just like Jabus wants.

   (The &quot;Left Behind&quot; series are actually the last five books of the Bible.)

   And the economy has done so great the last few years... you can see the finger of Jesus Himself, who rewards the faithful with lots and lots of money.  Remember, Jesus is a commie, and he only said that stuff about helping the poor because he needed the righteous people to kill Him, so he could save us from our sins.  So all that help the poor stuff, thats just commie propaganda, stuck in there to get Jesus killed.

    McCain the unity candidate: the people who want to blow up the world for Jebus, and the people who want to wallow in their worldly wealth... united behind one man: McCain!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:22:07 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>No matter where you are on life's journey</title>
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      <author>OhSNAPfan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Lakeview UCC is having it's Kickoff Sunday with a contemporary band Sowing Seeds. All are welcome to this congregation no matter who you are or where you are on life's journey. For more information, go to www.lakeviewucc.com. Kickoff Sunday is 10 a.m., Sept. 7. Lakeview is located at 8639 Columbia Road in Maineville, Ohio.]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Evidence for the Fine-Tuning of the Galaxy-Sun-Earth-Moon System for Life Support</title>
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      <author>a teacher</author>
      <description><![CDATA[is the board up and running again? or.........]]></description>
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      <title>Evidence for the Fine-Tuning of the Galaxy-Sun-Earth-Moon System for Life Support</title>
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      <author>blessed1</author>
      <description><![CDATA[http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/design_evidences/200406_fine_tuning_for_life_on_earth.shtml


Ouch

Time to give up the evolution hoax, ya can't win]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:53:46 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution: The Molecular Machines of a Cell</title>
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      <author>blessed1</author>
      <description><![CDATA[http://www.leestrobel.com/videos/Creator/strobelT2043.htm


Its time to tell Evolutionest they are nutts and teach or children the truth that we are created

Ok Lets hear what the Atheist has to do to spin this : ^ )]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:45:54 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>HR676</title>
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      <author>sugarfree</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have faith people with values will sign an online petition for HR676. I mean leaving peolpe sick and dying in the streets. What would Jesus do?
I'm taking a wild guess that you will have trouble signing a petition at www.michaelmoore.com so you can sign the one at www.healthcare-now.org]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:48:17 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Marriage is a Holy Union between....</title>
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      <author>Mustellus</author>
      <description><![CDATA[one man and one woman AT A TIME.

   Trading up is perfectly ok, as long as you are getting a better, richer model.

   We only make fun of rich wives (e.g. Mrs Kerry) if they are the _first_ wife.

   Regan, Dole, Gingerich, and now McCain... serial monogamy is not Adultery....

   In spite of what Jesus preached: &quot;He who divorces his wife to marry another commits adultery&quot;, ...

   and Proverbs: &quot;Cling to the wife of your youth&quot;.....

   (oh, and you can abandon the kids, too..... )]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:37:02 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Teen Challenge Exposed!</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,67124,67124#msg-67124</link>
      <author>Agnostic</author>
      <description><![CDATA[A former Teen Challenge student exposes this abusive Christian alcohol and drug program. Although seen by many as a worthwhile organization, Teen Challenge has a dark side, one of pathological abuse and an obsession with the almighty dollar. 

http://www.teenchallengeexposed.com]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:46:28 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Flexible &quot;Standards&quot;</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,67037,67069#msg-67069</link>
      <author>twinertia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Don't fret; the interpolated musings of their Savior-Elect carry as little weight in politics as they do anywhere else. Didn't trickle their brows one whit in Reagan's case, and McCain is hell and gone from that pantheon.

Just one (1) in a series of reasons why theists (Christians, in particular) should take the lead in eschewing the seats of civil governance.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:21:31 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Adulterer for President!!!!</title>
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      <author>Mustellus</author>
      <description><![CDATA[No, I'm not joking.

  In this series of Monica Lewedinsky Memorial Posts, I am taking the &quot;values&quot; of the right wing perverts who taught my 8 year old about oral sex.... and shoving them down their throats.

  The people who wanted to use &quot;morality&quot; as a weapon... after whose fetish this entire board is named:  &quot;Faith (in their money) and Values (for their opponents)&quot;, should have their own &quot;values&quot; rubbed into their faces.

   So, while I agree with you on sexual morality... personally... I'm going to be leafletting Baptist Churches as the election approaches.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:57:56 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Adulterer for President!!!!</title>
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      <author>pw</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Certainly you must be joking, I could care less if our next president takes preference in humpin his dog as long as he actually has the interests of this country in his heart. That means actually following what the Constitution says. Not that I am defending Clinton, but he lied and no one died. Guess I'll add, impeach Bush and his cronies for crimes of high treason!!!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:20:23 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Blind Faith in the Oil Companies....</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,67055,67055#msg-67055</link>
      <author>Mustellus</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The last week has shown one of the biggest examples of faith: the evidence of things not seen....

    The oil companies have plenty of money to drill, and land to do it on.

    But drilling for oil is expensive, and that expense would decrease their short term profits.

    Of course, they would find new oil resources, and that would lower the price of oil in the future.

    That, of course, would _decrease their long term profits_.

    So, why the h*ll would they drill???????

    Is that what you put faith in?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:49:13 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Adulterer for President!!!!</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,67037,67037#msg-67037</link>
      <author>Mustellus</author>
      <description><![CDATA[John McCain abandoned &quot;the wife of his youth&quot; when she was involved in a tragic, and very disfiguring accident.

     Of course, being held a prisoner of war and being tortured means that you are entitled to one free &quot;trade up&quot; for your wife.

     But as I've heard countless times from the pulpit, an Adulter cannot be allowed to be President.   Our country will lose the War On Terror, just as we did under Clinton.

     As Jesus said:  &quot;He who divorces his wife to marry another commits Adultery&quot;

     Stop this madness now!  We need a sexually pure Republican for president!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:33:11 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Speak Up!: the DDN Porno Board</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,67036,67036#msg-67036</link>
      <author>Mustellus</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Wake up DDN!  The Speak Up board has become a place for one user, &quot;Old Cold Warrior&quot;, to boast of his sexual exploits.

   Is this the kind of &quot;Family Values&quot; we get from you, DDN?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:28:17 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>HR676</title>
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      <author>sugarfree</author>
      <description><![CDATA[With GM annoucing they are taking away retirees health benefits, who will be next? Please educate yourself on HR676 (single-payer health care)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:00:36 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: &quot;Science leads to killing people&quot;</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,62658,66586#msg-66586</link>
      <author>lara2328@aol.com</author>
      <description><![CDATA[religion has caused more death than anything else in the history of our planet. more people have been killed in the name of &quot;God&quot; than for any other reason.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:50:31 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>The Madness To The Method</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,66472,66472#msg-66472</link>
      <author>twinertia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I'd usually post all things Brittany under the running &quot;The French Connection&quot; thread on Page Five (5) of this board, but after reading Kermit Rowe's side-story in the Sports section of today's paper, commentary HAD to be of a more front-and-center nature.

Anyone following the &quot;Smart Talk&quot; blog already knows that Smart has re-upped for another round with Point Chaud. Basic sense readily explains this: she's a good player, and Sprimont needs as many good players as they can find. But the Britt is peddling a different tale as to how she arrived at her decision: it was all about the Yahweh. No surprise there, until you start reading the story.

At first, she was hesitant (?!?), then came to the point where she said &quot;I'll probably go&quot;. Here's where the wheels dislodge from the caboose: &quot;Then I said, 'Lord in a week, I'm going to go ahead and say yes. If you don't want me to go, show me during this week'&quot;. Not only did she put her Lord God to the test with that proclamation, she did it on HER timeframe and terms. Some might call that being &quot;prayerful&quot;, but it was clearly an ultimatum. What's sad is that I know SO MANY &quot;Christian&quot; theists whose life choices are made with that blown-to-the-winds theology, yet when these pinata-whacks fail in horrid fashion, they blame everyone EXCEPT the dispatcher.

The rest of the piece has her admitting to being little more than a house organ for a dude who hardly needs the PR, so I'd be amazed if her next fling in Euro sports didn't resemble her last one.

Au revoir, enfant terrible. A prudent man concealeth knowledge; but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness (Proverbs 12:23).]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:32:44 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Whatever Tugs At Yer Bobber.....</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,65947,66138#msg-66138</link>
      <author>Sawber?</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I don't believe in the future omnisicence of God.  Sure, He knows some things in the future because he is going to make them happen.  For example, I know I am goign to post this in the next few minutes.  It doesn't make me magical or anything, I just know that I have the power to post it (unless the software screws up in which case you won't see it!).  However, I do beleive in the present/past onmisicnence of God.

And is it control?  Yes.  Motivation for us to control ourselves so we can live as decent human beings.  

Do all of us need motivation to live as civilized people? Of course not.  But many do.  And regardless, we all could use motivation to live better.

So why do I punish my kids?  Is it for the thrill of control?  Heck no.  I wish they'd just be good so I didn't have to.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:54:32 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Whatever Tugs At Yer Bobber.....</title>
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      <author>twinertia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Why? One word: control.

The real question is: why should deity CARE about the accumulations of various slights and foibles? And, if it knew ahead of time what they were going to be, why the charade of judgmental accountability? Why create something that you KNOW you're gonna throw to the cerberi two (2) shakes later? The &quot;free will&quot; concept infers that deity (Yahweh, in this instance) isn't omniscient (which I'm willing to concede).

AS WRITTEN, I'll choose to have nothing to do with it; no gladhanding of tyrants in this life, and none in a &quot;next&quot;.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:39:07 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>If it were fearful capitulation</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,65947,66136#msg-66136</link>
      <author>Sawber?</author>
      <description><![CDATA[What would Christians want share it and evangelize?  As long as they are taken care of what would they care about their neighbor?


I still don't see how it is malevolent.

Is there any denial that each of us do &quot;bad&quot; things that society doesn't catch us or punish us for?  Of course not.

The question is should God/the universe/whatever hold us accountable for those things?

If you say &quot;no&quot;, then you are comfortable in putting your fate in the hands of nothing or God/the universe/whatever if you are wrong.

For those of us who do beleive there is a God, I think it is reasonable to expect to be held accountable for our deeds.

And I know that I personally, although a good person by society's standards, do enough bad things that I could not make up for them.  Heck, my wife can attest to that by the fact that I am eternally in the doghouse and only get out by her grace and forgiveness.

So having to rely on the grace of God is a gift I welcome.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:17:49 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Not-So-Subtle Differences</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,65947,66135#msg-66135</link>
      <author>twinertia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It's a far cry between the temporary discomfort of modern reality and the infinite immersion into &quot;flame that cannot be quenched&quot;. Your kids obviously don't know what the &quot;real pain&quot; of indoctrination entails (or, they do, and they're just behaving typically).

No Catch-22 here; I obviously don't subscribe to belief in the Christian deity. I only frame it as malevolent AS IT'S BEEN WRITTEN and widely accepted as. As I said in my previous post, I doubt that a perfect being would write such contradictory things about itself, and I doubly doubt that such a being would've allowed such misconstructions to carry on as long as they have. If that isn't the case, however, you could be dealing with the unpredictability of one mongering mamma-jamma.

All of which makes &quot;worship&quot; a somewhat misplaced description of what's going on; &quot;fearful capitulation&quot; is closer to the truth.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:05:50 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Sorry, but as a parent, I love my kids</title>
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      <author>Sawber?</author>
      <description><![CDATA[But yet I ground them from World of Warcraft, deny them things they want, etc. and follow through on the punishments.  Which they, of course, call torture.

But you just caught yourself in a catch 22.  If you believe in God and believe he has the power to do that to people, then you will accept him and it is a non-issue.

If you don't believe in him, you certainly can't believe he is malevolent.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:32:24 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Flaky Board Software</title>
      <link>http://discussions.middletownjournal.com/read.php?78,65947,66121#msg-66121</link>
      <author>twinertia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Know what you mean about the randomized editing. 

Notice how some &quot;double-ess&quot; (ss) words are getting through, and some aren't?

I've even given up on trying to post through my hometown site (links don't work). This is going through the Fairfield Echo site (which I tripped over by accident).]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:40:09 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Obvious History</title>
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      <author>twinertia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The Bible didn't show up in its accepted form until the Catholic Church put it together back during the fourth or fifth century CE. Before that, Christianity was just another odd sect tucked into a backwater of the Roman Empire.

It's just plain cruel to call your deity one of &quot;boundless love&quot;, while simultaneously claiming that it's created a special place of hideous torture for anyone who doesn't show it the proper respect. That's malevolent, no matter how it's spun. Whether a deity would actually write that as canon is dubious and debatable, but for superstitiously-inclined peoples to write these things doesn't surprise me one bit.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:36:37 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>It won't let me edit</title>
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      <author>Sawber?</author>
      <description><![CDATA[And I wanted to also say
&quot;Most folks believe the N T was completely written by 90 A.D.&quot; but had trouble with a word.

Still trying to figure out which one!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:04:44 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Yep</title>
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      <author>Sawber?</author>
      <description><![CDATA[And yes, it was collected in book form after Christ left. But please document your claim of &quot;centuries&quot;.  
Please give examples of this malevolence you speak of in as$ociation with Christianity (i.e. the New Testament)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:02:49 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>What's In A Name?</title>
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      <author>twinertia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[And therein lies a tremendous problem for this particular flavor of theism: paradox.

It's nigh-impossible to &quot;define&quot; Christianity, as it was around centuries before the various teachings were collected into book form by self-appointed salesmen. Sadly, that collection was badly proofread, as it's hard to imagine a deity of &quot;pure love&quot; treating anyone or anything with such malevolence.

According to my progrezzively-churched acquaintences, they've simply opted to fixate upon the positive instead of the negative; they can't stand the nastinezz of the past (and rightly so), and don't want to see it repeated. A lofty goal, but they're still trying to square it through the flawed prism of the Bible, a strategy that ultimately caters to and alienates.

When basing your worldview on such foggy documents, should it come as such a surprise that you'd call yourself ANYTHING?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:51:49 -0400</pubDate>
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